Hey bros!
IHSH-GOAT over IH olive waffle Henley
Rocky Mountain Featherbed
666 in vintage 18oz
Viberg Chelseas
Hey bros!
IHSH-GOAT over IH olive waffle Henley
Rocky Mountain Featherbed
666 in vintage 18oz
Viberg Chelseas
Beautiful day for 18oz vintage denim and jailhouse work shirts
And family.
Dune not try that again
My UnTucked lined with my IH indigo dipped hoodie has become a favorite. Today over an IH 9oz indigo flannel and IH 7.5oz LS tee with IHxViberg smokejumpers in copper task.
Lookin spiffy y’all!
Jerry approves of the IHxViberb smokejumpers. Really love em myself. I’d wear em much more if they they were easier to don and doff.
I love hickory stripes and duck together.
Some sort of amazing IH chambray double yoked western and Battenwear climbing pants today.
@Graham thanks for the sizing help I think we nailed it.
777 XHS: Hilariously stiff on arrival, hysterically stiff after initial wash and hang dry. Stiffest bitches since the 22oz paraffin coated duck IH-2634s of yore.
@ddtrash good shirt choice I think I’ll steal that idea
How about “would of” where “would’ve” is the intent? Fingernails on a chalkboard
I want to watch that one too.
How about a debate: what should be the stacked ranking of space exploration objectives? Here’s a try that isn’t super well thought out:
survival: I think we need to eventually be able to live off world and colonize the solar system to de-risk a number of threats to our civilization
scientific discovery: I think that a lot of answers that could help with technological advancements will come from understanding our universe. So this includes experiments and instruments in space, and then the ancillary tech advancements that enable and accompany space exploration. This includes things like manufacturing in space free of the constraints of gravity, which overlaps with:
commercial concerns: there is money to be made and each nation and alliance will benefit from being ahead of the game; in this sense this is also a national security concern
Yep agreed and that’s the random thought I just added above that sprung uninvited in my insomniac head.
I think if we’re honest with ourselves, we find it very hard not to include the serial comma in corresponding speech: try saying “lock, stock, and two smoking barrels” (which, btw, is not how the fools wrote the title) without corresponding pauses for the commas. You’ll find it difficult and it will sound odd.
That proves my point beyond the unassailable logic offered already—not only does the Oxford comma remove ambiguity, it reflects how the sentence is spoken, which is the ultimate aim of grammatical syntax.
Similarly, “my parents, Alice, and Bob” is spoken differently than “my parents: Alice and Bob” (no pause at the semicolon here) and the syntax should reflect that difference. “My parents, Alice and Bob” doesn’t reflect it and I think that’s why it just looks off to me.
next to impossible without a system of harnesses, grips, and pullies that would make the most extreme domiatrix blush.
The point is that the punctuation is necessary. It’s a single character. The counter arguments are nonsense like “restructure your sentence “ instead of just documenting language as it is spoken in text.
Anyway, I win
@Matt said in Nuances and Idiosyncrasies of the English Language:
@pechelman said in Nuances and Idiosyncrasies of the English Language:
Can't help but think this is a softball for a joke?
Ambiguous and potentially very concerning; Matt likes pegging, his jeans and his dog.
Clear but still a little concerning; Matt likes pegging, his jeans, and his dog.
Again, a colon would clear this up, not an unnecessary comma.
Assuming you mean the punctuation, and understanding that this is a flawed example, how would a colon be helpful in resolving ambiguity here? All that does is introduce the list; any ambiguity from skipping the final serial comma is unresolved.
The point in consistency isn’t that the final comma is strictly necessary to understand a given sentence. It’s that the consistency means that when sentences would become ambiguous without the final comma you know exactly what is meant. That’s why the AP approach of only including the last comma when needed to disambiguate a sentence’s meaning is a flawed approach. A global standard puts an end to the problem.
this is a case where no comma is best.